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    ting13, sunday 27th of March 2005, 18:00 UTC (19:00 CET)[edit]

    See also the talk-page for the ting13_talk. (same as discussion in the orange bar above)


    Date: 2005-03-27 (Sunday)


    * ma: MattisManzel
    * mu: mutante
    * lk: LionKimbro

    mutante and Mattis talked, mutante left, Lion arrived, Lion and Mattis talked. Then Lion and mutante talked.


    * Structure and Method for meetings
    * WikiNoding values neutral
    * RSS standardization
    * Noding together multiple wiki
    * RSS across multiple wiki
    * How to cluster WikiNodes
    * WikiNodes: central admins?


    This summarizes Lion and Mattis' conversation.

    * Feeds on s23
      * list of feeds: http://is-root.de/wiki/index.php/Feeds
      * unfortunately, they don't merge into one, like OddMuse feed aggregation
      * it can be a bit slow on OddMuse
      * Event system
        * sends an event whenever a wiki changes
        * RSS feeds cache always up-to-date
        * CommunityWiki:DistributedEditing
        * based on JEP-0060?
        * MoinMoin intends to implement an internal event system
    * Meeting Structure
      * Importance of Listening. It feels good to know you are listened to.
      * MoonEdit vs. IRC:
        * content not transient
        * content reworkable
        * can rework expressions
        * simultaneous document editing
        * can copy & paste good contents to a document page
          * (though, we have done this in IRC too)
        * negative: no date / time stamping
      * Purpose, method of meetings.
        * Lion's concern: Economy of face-to-face real-time group interaction.
        * So, we should work hard to make best use of time during Tings.
        * "There should be at least some sour cucumbers on the table."
        * xtof used to do preparations
      * "The Table":
        * (Lion summarizes his method described on CommunityWiki:RobertsRules)
          * Which wil be moved to CommunityWiki:TheTable
        * The table needs to be in view and editable by everyone.
          * So, it can't be in another document window, if people aren't using two document windows.
    * (mutante returns.)
      * mutante prefers non-realtime discussion, though likes MoonEdit for collaborative programming.
      * pastebin.com ; using MoonEdit as a pastebin
      * bot for automatic upload to MoonEdit
      * (we really want a Free / liberated version)
    * RSS standardization
      * Date field
    * RSS-Feed of WikiNodes (contains the RC's of several Wikis belonging to one topic)  
    * Wikinoding that respects community concerns.
      * ex: Linking Christian wiki to Unitarian Universalist wiki
      * Even linking X-tian wiki to X-tian wiki can be very dangerous, if we don't understand the communities.
      * The concern is putting people off to wikinodes, because of bad first experiences.
      * Perhaps noding technical subjects together, things that are more clear cut.
    * Wiki Metadata
       * WikiMachineCode
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