ting13, sunday 27th of March 2005, 18:00 UTC (19:00 CET)
See also the talk-page for the ting13_talk. (same as discussion in the orange bar above)
Date: 2005-03-27 (Sunday)
* ma: MattisManzel * mu: mutante * lk: LionKimbro
mutante and Mattis talked, mutante left, Lion arrived, Lion and Mattis talked. Then Lion and mutante talked.
* Structure and Method for meetings * WikiNoding values neutral * RSS standardization * Noding together multiple wiki * RSS across multiple wiki * How to cluster WikiNodes * WikiNodes: central admins?
This summarizes Lion and Mattis' conversation.
* Feeds on s23 * list of feeds: http://is-root.de/wiki/index.php/Feeds * unfortunately, they don't merge into one, like OddMuse feed aggregation * it can be a bit slow on OddMuse * Event system * sends an event whenever a wiki changes * RSS feeds cache always up-to-date * CommunityWiki:DistributedEditing * based on JEP-0060? * MoinMoin intends to implement an internal event system * Meeting Structure * Importance of Listening. It feels good to know you are listened to. * MoonEdit vs. IRC: * content not transient * content reworkable * can rework expressions * simultaneous document editing * can copy & paste good contents to a document page * (though, we have done this in IRC too) * negative: no date / time stamping * Purpose, method of meetings. * Lion's concern: Economy of face-to-face real-time group interaction. * So, we should work hard to make best use of time during Tings. * "There should be at least some sour cucumbers on the table." * xtof used to do preparations * "The Table": * (Lion summarizes his method described on CommunityWiki:RobertsRules) * Which wil be moved to CommunityWiki:TheTable * The table needs to be in view and editable by everyone. * So, it can't be in another document window, if people aren't using two document windows. * (mutante returns.) * mutante prefers non-realtime discussion, though likes MoonEdit for collaborative programming. * pastebin.com ; using MoonEdit as a pastebin * bot for automatic upload to MoonEdit * (we really want a Free / liberated version) * RSS standardization * Date field * RSS-Feed of WikiNodes (contains the RC's of several Wikis belonging to one topic) * Wikinoding that respects community concerns. * ex: Linking Christian wiki to Unitarian Universalist wiki * Even linking X-tian wiki to X-tian wiki can be very dangerous, if we don't understand the communities. * The concern is putting people off to wikinodes, because of bad first experiences. * Perhaps noding technical subjects together, things that are more clear cut. * Wiki Metadata * WikiMachineCode