TingWiki/ting11

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ting11, sunday 20th of March 2005, 18:00 UTC (19:00 CET)
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2005-03-20 1800 GMT Sunday

Participants:


 * MattisManzel (ma)
 * Sigi (si)
 * TheCrypto / JulianKrause (tc)
 * LionKimbro (lk)

Proposed topics:

Table:
 * Wiki-Noding Party (making a ton of wiki-nodes in a day)
 * Tings on Sundays, later hours


 * WikiNoding methods

Meeting Summary:


 * (non-summarized stuff)
 * "preselected feed of wikinodes"
 * ma: # of wikinodes large, getting hard to look through
 * ma: w/ categorized wiki, can find likely neighbors easier
 * ma: categorization based on both ContentAndCommunity
 * lk: isn't this mission of SwitchWiki?
 * lk: but can imagine metadata of wiki kept on wiki themselves
 * ma: better to keep on their wiki, templated and styled to their wiki
 * lk: So, we need wiki metadata
 * status of metadata support in wiki
 * x-wiki: probably there, but x-wiki is confusing as hell
 * mediawiki: there's an effort, it's been a while since we checked up on it
 * MoinMoin: has some primitive support, Lion thinks he saw something about more support coming
 * OddMuse: requires we convince Alex to support it. lk: "That'll be the day!"
 * MoonEdit
 * technically, can be done with just Javascript, like Google maps
 * Tom made a Java version of MoonEdit
 * link on one of older tings
 * meeting times:
 * LionKimbro likes this time. (Sunday 18:00)
 * Thursdays: 21:00 UTC
 * does live collaborative editing afford regular meetings?
 * documents for keeping track of meeting
 * but live element for meeting
 * automatic tying RecentNearChanges feed lists to the WikiNode neighbors list - recent changes of our neighbors
 * requires: machine-read list of neighbors
 * requires: machine-read description of wiki including pointer to RSS feed
 * mattis and Lion prefer mixed changes, like on CW,...
 * ...vs a big table of changes segregated by wiki, like on Open-Wiki.
 * pushing Metadata for wiki forward
 * be ready to go ASAP as soon as MoinMoin incorporates
 * MediaWiki effort check
 * lion likes http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-value_pairs
 * architecture for wiki metadata, SwitchWiki of the future:
 * wiki maintain their own metadata
 * future equivalent(s) of SwitchWiki just reads off the data, shows it to users however
 * some groups might want to keep machine-read data on other wiki themselves- alternative classification schemes
 * what metadata might look like
 * (example, to be copy-and-pasted from conversation text)
 * technically, you can do it now - ignoring content-type issues and stuff like that
 * for future meeting:
 * WikiNoding party
 * WikiNoding style
 * concentrating our message/presentation, because people are misunderstanding
 * lk: I like the tings, I believe we should structure our live interactions a bit more.
 * where do pages go? what is the page process?
 * s23-wiki
 * lk: perhaps we should x-post to CW